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Podcast #4 - How Spirituality and The Logical Levels Impact Dog Training with Sandra Vesterstein of Thrive Learning Collective 

Hello and Welcome!

Date: March 6th, 2023

Host: Rhonda Bilodeau

Guest: Sandra Vesterstein

In episode 4 of the Divine Feminine Dog Trainer Podcast I interview Sandra Vesterstein of Thrive Learning Collective https://thrivelearningcollective.  Sandra is a Life Coach and Neuro Linguistic Programming (NLP) practitioner. NLP is a model for learning how to create change in your life and in your relationship with your dog or your clients.  You can reach Sandra via phone at ‭+1 (802) 598-6078‬.

This was an exciting episode for me because Sandra lays down such an incredible foundation through the logical levels to show you how focusing on the pillars of the logical levels; environment, behavior, skills & capabilities, values & beliefs, identity and finally spirituality can create incredible transformation in a client's life and our own!

We talk about how NLP can shine a light on how we may become better communicators, take radical responsibility for where we're at in our life, learn to become in alignment with our clients and their values, build strong rapport with clients, create beautiful containers for them to feel safe, learn to become a better guide and ask high quality questions to see a fuller picture of where a client is coming from.

We dive deep into the conscious mind, unconscious mind that drives 95% of our behavior and the higher mind. How creating a pause in our life allows us to co create the experience we want expanding our options, discernment, choice and freedom rather than being stuck in old patterns and behaviors. We talk about unity consciousness and how impactful taking 100% responsibility for what energy you bring to your relationship with your dog can be.

Lastly, how impactful focusing on the spiritual nature of our relationship with dogs can be on our dog training.  How dogs are here to shine light on our shadows so we may spiritually evolve to bring forth our gifts to help others in this world and when you say 'YES!' to the multitude of invitation we often see through our dogs unwanted behaviors,  we start to live in faith and life starts happening  for us.

You can listen below or by clicking the link here :) We're also on Spotify and iTunes.


✨ We encourage you to practice the techniques and then share your results with us so we can share with our community! ✨

How can you inspire others? Learn below....

The goal is to spread the word of others like you, helping their dogs through mindful training techniques that get to the root cause of their dog's behavioral problems. 

Please share your story, success, testimonial or epiphany about the techniques you learned on the podcast and how they're impacting your life with your dog by recording your story through an audio. We will then share your story on the podcast! You will be making a difference in other dogs and dog lover's lives!


Step 1: Find an audio program like Voice Memos (iPhones) or Sound Recorder (Android) on your phone.

Step 2: Record your story! Leave your name, dog/s name/s, where you're from, issue and explain what you changed or technique you used and how it changed yours and your dog's life!


Step 3: Take that audio recording and email it Please note, by leaving a recording you are allowing Rhonda to share your story on her Podcast, The Divine Feminine Dog Trainer.

❤️ Thank you for sharing your story and helping the world better understand other alternatives to dog healing! ❤️

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